California Compliance

So I have read that the population of the socialist state of Californuia is 10% of the nation, so ignoring it as a market has sales implications.

The applicable passages of Cali law that are problematic seem to me to be the following:

Title 11, Division 5, Chapter 5, Department of Justice Regulations ...

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(c)(2) Comencing January 1, 2007, the DOJ-Certified Laboratory shall conduct the required testing of a centerfire semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine only after ascertaining the firearm has both a functioning chamber load indicator and a functioning magazine disconnect mechanism.

It goes on to say that it must be self explanatory and visible from 24" away, have text engraved showing where it is, etc.

(d)(1) For the purposes of determining whether a handgun passes the "firing requirement for handguns," "malfunction" includes any failure to operate as designed, including the failure of a pistol's slide to remain open aftert a manufacturer approved magazine has been expended, provided that the handgun was designed by the manufacturer to remain open.

So, the first is a huge pain in the ass, unless the magazine is no longer detachable without a tool, such as the bullet button. The second is a non-issue, as it doesn't have a slide lock in the design.

Does anyone see a flaw in this reasoning?

Tags: California, Compliance, Law, bullet, button, lock, slide

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Permalink Reply by Jose A. Montalvo on January 31, 2012 at 6:40pm

Yes, but a client from california figured out a workaround where a long sub-caliber barrel in 25 acp was installed along with some wooden block inside the magazine well. I think this is called "the single shot exception". after 10 days, the new owner took out the barrel and magazine block and restored the gun back to factory specs...voila! perfectly legal california gun.

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Permalink Reply by BretShooter on January 31, 2012 at 7:40pm

I missed that. Are California legislators that stupid?

Jose A. Montalvo said:

Yes, but a client from california figured out a workaround where a long sub-caliber barrel in 25 acp was installed along with some wooden block inside the magazine well. I think this is called "the single shot exception". after 10 days, the new owner took out the barrel and magazine block and restored the gun back to factory specs...voila! perfectly legal california gun.

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Permalink Reply by Arne Boberg on January 31, 2012 at 8:39pm

I don't believe a wooden block in the magazine was required in this case - since the .25 ACP would not locate properly in the magazine, nor be gripped by the tongs or the extractor, it would be impossible for this ammo to feed. My understanding was that they just dropped a sleeve in the barrel - that's it. I'm guessing the conversion back to semi-auto took seconds.

No comment on CA legislators. I guess that if something is not specifically spelled out as being illegal, it is legal over there.

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Permalink Reply by BretShooter on January 31, 2012 at 11:04pm

So my idea would work, but this is simpler. Damn. Amazing they remember to breath on their own.

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Permalink Reply by Jose A. Montalvo on February 2, 2012 at 7:48pm

Actually, there are a couple of CA gun store that specialize in this type of transaction.

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Permalink Reply by Brokedoc on February 2, 2012 at 8:17pm

See, BIG government can be a GOOD thing....

The politicians create some stupid laws to protect us feeble minded citizens.

Smart people find a loophole and start a business to get around the stupid law.

Us feeble minded people get what we wanted in the first place but now a middle man has made money and the economy is better.

Man, I love politicians!

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Permalink Reply by bbrkc on February 2, 2012 at 10:12pm

Politicians will close the loop holes when it's in THEIR best interest. Some are stupid most are not. All are useful tools to God above, some are willing most are not.

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Permalink Reply by unusedusername on February 21, 2012 at 12:07am

I have a XR9-S in California. You can get these guns into California via single shot exemption: http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=383692

I have some photos of the gun in single-shot and normal form at http://unusedusername.com

In this case it did not require any mods to the magazine at all since the bullet grabbers could not grab the smaller caliber bullets (25 ACP) that the single shot conversion kit was chambered for.

I used Valkyrie Arms in Milipetis for my Boberg XR9-S :)

You can email me at unusuedusername -at- gmail dot com, or pm me on calguns with username unusedusername if you need any details...