10 mm

When I first heard about these amazing little pistols my first thought was 10mm I was surprised at how fast I received a response and not only that there just might be one in the works I can't wait

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Permalink Reply by Arne Boberg on March 31, 2012 at 1:06pm

The .45 ACP version is still going to have a frame that is longer by 1/2".

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Permalink Reply by Blueorison on March 31, 2012 at 1:53pm

Arne, I really hope you keep the .357SIG alive!

I'm still eagerly awaiting the F sized models and one in .357SIG would be a tremendous boon. It's going to be the only handgun I carry, concealed, and adopting it over the 9mm caliber as an option would be greatly-appreciated.

Thanks for your time.

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Permalink Reply by LASZLO DIGIOIA on March 31, 2012 at 3:27pm

45 ACP has three easy derivatives I'm interested in: 460 Rowland, 400 CorBon, and my favorite 50GI.

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Permalink Reply by William.Stinson on April 1, 2012 at 12:56am

Of course the .40 S&W is ballistically inferior to the 10mm Auto -- whereas the 45 GAP is ballistically equal to the 45 ACP... ;)

Ed said:

If Boberg Arms is toying with the idea of producing a pistol for a shorter version of the .45 ACP round - the .45 GAP, wouldn't it also be appropriate for them to consider a shorter version of the 10mm round - the .40 S&W?

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Permalink Reply by William.Stinson on April 1, 2012 at 12:57am

Reasons? Because the 45 GAP is ballistically equal to the 45 AUTO (especially in short barreled pistols) -- although in the shorter OAL cartridge...

Arne Boberg said:

Good point. Now I am going to have to review my reasons/excuses for leaning toward the GAP.

Ed said:

If Boberg Arms is toying with the idea of producing a pistol for a shorter version of the .45 ACP round - the .45 GAP, wouldn't it also be appropriate for them to consider a shorter version of the 10mm round - the .40 S&W?

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Permalink Reply by Blueorison on April 1, 2012 at 1:56am

You might be correct, William, but no one I know and many do not own the .45 GAP. I'm not sure it would be worth the tooling time.

Great points, though.

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Permalink Reply by William.Stinson on April 1, 2012 at 2:44am

Arne would sell every XR-45 GAP he could make! A true pocket pistol in .45 caliber -- people would buy the 45 GAP ammo for it... ;)

Blueorison said:

You might be correct, William, but no one I know and many do not own the .45 GAP. I'm not sure it would be worth the tooling time.

Great points, though.

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Permalink Reply by LASZLO DIGIOIA on April 1, 2012 at 9:34am

Ammo is reasonably affordable, GAP brass was available at the gun show yesterday, Arne has a picture of a GAP mockup disappearing in his back pocket, and he told us the "critical geometry" was easier or closer to his 9mm or something.

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Permalink Reply by Blueorison on April 1, 2012 at 12:01pm

That's... a good point, haha! It was the reverse train of thought that I had, but still makes a lot of sense. Good catch.

William.Stinson said:

Arne would sell every XR-45 GAP he could make! A true pocket pistol in .45 caliber -- people would buy the 45 GAP ammo for it... ;)

Blueorison said:

You might be correct, William, but no one I know and many do not own the .45 GAP. I'm not sure it would be worth the tooling time.

Great points, though.

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Permalink Reply by Arne Boberg on April 1, 2012 at 12:45pm

After having done a search for GAP ammo, it seems readily available on the web. There's something to be said for the smallest .45 semi-auto ever offered.